5% of Oklahoma City residents vote “Yes” for Maps 4EVER

Just as I forecasted, a shockingly low number of Oklahoma City residents went to the polls on Tuesday and voted overwhelmingly in support of the $900-million+ MAPS 4EVER.

Here are the final results from the Oklahoma County Election Board:


Wow. 71% of the vote going “Yes” is a dominant margin and probably explains why David Holt, Steve Lackmeyer and the entire Funk family were spotted skinny dipping in the Bricktown Canal last night with out of state social media influencers, but 40,335 44,439 voters is an embarrassingly low voter turnout. That means only 7% or so of Oklahoma City residents voted in the election. I guess David Holt’s work to increase voter turnout when he served in the State Senate never panned out.

Non Doc – which I think may now be owned by the OKC Chamber of Commerce – completely ignored the low voter turnout angle and triumphantly declared the election a “landslide.”

Landslide: MAPS 4 passes ‘to continue the progress’ of Oklahoma City

Oklahoma City’s latest installment of a penny sales tax for strategic investment passed with flying colors this evening. The city’s MAPS 4 package received 71.7 percent of the vote, making it the most popular of all MAPS votes.

I know I’m not an esteemed journalist, but is it really fair to label MAPS 4EVER “the most popular MAPS ever,” when it received fewer Yes votes than the original MAPS in 1994 (33,367), MAPS for Kids in 2001 (36,866) and MAPS 3 (40,956) in 2009? The answer is “No.”

Here’s what Mayor McSelfie had to say about it:

“Tonight we have the largest percentage of support in the history of Oklahoma City,” Mayor David Holt told an assembled crowd in south Oklahoma City. “This is not just a victory. This is a mandate without historic precedent in our city. We have never been more united as one OKC.”

David Holt was the main cheerleader for the MAPS campaign, so I can see why he’s beating his chest like a dorky Tarzan, but at least be honest with us. Just because there was a general feeling of apathy for MAPS 4EVER and no legitimate, organized opposition doesn’t mean this city has “never been more united.” I would have described it as, “We have never cared less as one OKC.”

The 12,000 or so cheap asses who voted against MAPS were naturally down and blue. That includes our old racist pal Crazy Carol Hefner. She took a break from from posting memes on 4chan to share this Facebook post:

 

Yikes, it looks like the boxeth wine did runneth over last night at the Hefner household! Punctuation is the first thing to go when you drink and are bitter. I bet by midnight she was drunk and asleep on the cabriole sofa holding an empty bottle of Galimoro sauce.

Anyway, that concludes this MAPS recap. If you voted “Yes,” we offer our congrats. If you voted “No,” we offer our sympathies. If you didn’t vote, way to fit in.

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46 Responses


  1. Polls* Now I’ll continue reading.


    1. I was thinking voter turnout might have been low because it’s too frigid at the poles to make the trip worthwhile.


  2. One of your better posts. Glad to see an even treatment of the issue.


  3. “…44,000 voted (7%) decided this issue.”

    If punctuation is the first thing to go when you bitter-drink, then sentence construction must be the second.

    One almost feels sorry for poor Carol, who will be paying that extra 1% for everything she buys in OKC. Almost.

    All that free stuff for the masses! Good thing Carol and Bob IV got their Trump income tax cut. How else could they manage to get by financially?


    1. I’ll feel more sorry for my neighbor, whose Social Security check is something like $940, and so I imagine he’ll pay, oh, easily 50 bucks a month for MAPS4 , which comes to 600 a year, and then over 8 or 10 years or however long it lasts, he’ll fork in around 5000 dollars. Very approximate but depressing numbers for him.
      So, he’s giving the Thunder, essentially, around 500 dollars. Funk, he’s giving a couple of hundred or so.
      And we’ve already forked out about 2 million taxpayer dollars for all the ads and signs around town and at the start of every friggin’ youtube video I’ve been watching. Hope they pick up all those yard signs; they’re getting in the way of me seeing all the “Jack buys houses” ones.


      1. If he’s paying $50/month just for MAPS4, then he’d have to be buying about $5000 in goods in OKC specifically every month. Your point is complete, utter, total, bullshit idiocy.


        1. Gee, Brian, like I said below, I made a mistake. I realized it right afterwards while walking the dog. But you got to it before I did.
          Old, bad night of sleep.
          So very, very, very sorry, man. Can I send you some money or something, for some anti-venom?


      2. Hmmm….I’m not really a Math Genius that specializes in Math, but help me out here. The MAPS tax is 1 cent (.01), so even if your neighbor spent his entire SS check in the city of OKC, and everything he purchased was sales tax eligible, by my calculations that comes to $9.40 a month for the MAPS tax. $9.40 x 12 = $112.80 annually. Now, if you can show me how you get $50.00 a month out of that, I’m willing to listen.
        Also, I’ve seen a lot of MAPS ads, but I’ve yet to see one that sponsored by the City of OKC and with a $2mil spend, I’d think I would’ve seen one. The ones I’ve seen are paid for by Love Your OKC. They post a laundry list of their “coalition members” but the City of OKC isn’t one of them. It seems to be composed primarily of various chambers of commerce, unions and various civic groups.


      3. Oh, hell, I believe I’m off an order of magnitude.
        Sad, I used to tutor stats.


      4. Absolutely. A sales tax (especially one that taxes necessities like food, clothing, and medicine) is the most regressive possible form of taxation–which is, of course, why the republican mayor and republican led state love it so much. It baffled me to see supposedly progressive people like Rep. Kendra Horn pimping this regressive tax that harms the poor but I don’t imagine she actually thought it through.

        According to the USDA, a “low-cost” food plan for a family of four is $200/week. In Oklahoma City, that poor family will have $897.52 over a year taken from them by the state and city just to feed their family. $429.52 of that goes to OKC. $104 of that is for MAPS. To feed their family! Talk about regressive! And that is just for groceries.

        Better states don’t collect sales taxes on necessities like groceries, clothing, and medicine. But this city needs their Billion dollars to trowel another layer of lipstick on the pig.


        1. $200 a week? What Rockefeller lives like that. Two teenage sons, plus dogs and cats, and we spend about $150 a week on food. And it’s not difficult. What crap are people buying?


          1. Take it up with USDA. It’s hard to imagine that you love local government so much that you want them to take so much of your precious little disposable income but you don’t trust the USDA.


        2. What you’re missing in the equation is that the ONLY way cities in the state of Oklahoma can raise any funds for operating expenses is through the use of sales tax. That’s it.

          They cannot propose a property tax or municipal tax or any other tax because the State Constitution is not written to do so.

          Many fine folks would be in support of the dissolution of the grocery tax were it not for the part about cities completely losing funding. In many small communities, the grocery tax (think small town with a dollar store or WalMart) this is the highest means of income to pay for police, fire services, sanitary sewer and other services that city might offer.

          Were the STATE to allow cities to look into other means of fundraising outside of a sales tax, then you’d have a point, but since they’re hands are literally tied on the matter, then they have to make due with the restrictions given to them.

          So, it’s not that other states are “better” by not collecting sales taxes on certain items, it’s just that many an Oklahoma town or community would literally go bust if they could not because that’s the only funding mechanism (outside of Bond Issues for limited capital projects) they have to hang their hat on.


          1. Our Powers That Be would repeal the state income tax root and branch if they could. They were on that path little by little when the state budget crashed during the Fallin years.

            Why would they want to do that? To shift more of the tax burden away from wealthier folks. Duh.

            Ask Carol Hefner. She will be happy to explain it to you.


  4. Why would there be voter apathy in Oklahoma?!
    Who’da thunk it?!


  5. Seems like Carol would be all for a sales tax since it is regressive and hurts lower income people much more than the rich. I guess she is in fact as stupid as she seems.


    1. Not if she has to pay any of it at all. She thinks she’s already overtaxed.


    2. Yep, which is why it’s so puzzling to see so many so-called progressives who love the regressive sales tax so much.


      1. While part of me reels at this comment, I couldn’t help but be offended when I received mail from Carri Hicks urging me to vote yes on the issue.

        Personally, I tend to side with TLO’s theme on this one. Just 5% of OKC voters have caused us to spend nearly a billion dollars on a slew of un-sexy projects.

        The Innovation District, for one, is already a TIF district, keeping taxes they take in on site…now we’re footing their bills from everywhere else in OKC, as well? I honestly don’t see how this one was pushed through.

        Low voter turnout was directly comparable to the future value of this all-too-present expenditure.


  6. If the following come to pass-

    The state legislature reduces the budgets of the programs that are receiving projects from Maps 4, “because hey, the big city is giving them free money already”.

    The State Fair Board builds a lackluster new arena where the citizens will be wondering how their money was spent, why the construction was delayed, and why isn’t it being used for more non-agricultural events catering to all citizens of the city.

    The multipurpose stadium is built and it’s not actually multipurpose. It sits empty for most of the year when it could be hosting concerts and various sporting events. Along with this, the Energy still have the same average attendance as they do now.

    I will be comfortable in the fact that I loved my city enough to vote in opposition and that I had asked my mayor and city council to come up with better proposals for the future of the city.

    This isn’t the Maps we deserved, but it’s the one that special interests influencers wanted.


  7. My guess is that the people that voted were those that felt passionately about the issue on either side. The 93% that didn’t vote fell into the “ehhh….whatever” crowd.
    Although a sales tax is considered regressive, it’s one of the few practical ways to get people like me (do a lot of my spending in OKC, but don’t live there) to help pay for your projects.


  8. The graphic you posted shows 44,439 total votes, not just 40,335. The state election board says there are 386,521 registered voters in Oklahoma county. That’s a turnout of 11.5%.

    There should be a conversation about voter turnout, but you should use accurate numbers.


    1. They were probably basing on eligible and not registered, but you do you.


    2. First of all, only OKC residents could vote, so you need to count the number of registered voters in OKC city limits, not OK County, so your number’s not accurate either.

      Carol Hefner is completely f-ing wrong, she thinks the entire population of OKC can vote.

      And the best guess I can come up with registered voters in OKC is from this link, which uses 2000 census info, so it’s out of date, but the true number of registered OKC voters can probably be extrapolated from it: https://oklahoman.com/article/2952435/breakdown-of-demographics-oklahoma-city-council-wards

      Number I came up with was 236,821, but that’s from 19 years ago, so it’s changed, just not sure how much (rate of growth was about 25%, I’ve read, so that’d bump the registered voters up to about 300,000 if the rate of growth is simply applied linearly), but it’s neither your number nor Carol’s. Non Doc said there about 320,000, and they’re probably as close as anybody, I’d trust their number. Voter turnout as still absymal, but everybody should use accurate numbers. 🙂


    3. Sorry. Used the wrong number in the article copy, but the calculations are still accurate.

      • There are a approximately 640,000 Oklahoma City residents.
      • 44,439 of these residents voted in the Maps election
      • 44,439 votes / 640,000 residents = 6.9%
      • 6.9% rounds up to 7%

      Therefore, 7% of OKC residents voted “Yes for Maps.”

      Also, on the topic of using accurate numbers, the election board claims 411,356 registered voters live in Oklahoma County. Double also, not everyone who lives in Oklahoma County is a Oklahoma City resident.

      Thanks for reading!

      https://www.ok.gov/elections/documents/20190115%20-%20Registration%20By%20County%20(vr2420).pdf


      1. And not everyone eligible to vote is registered to vote.


        1. Correct. Which is why I specifically wrote “7% or so of Oklahoma City residents voted in the election.”


          1. Yet those who aren’t eligible to vote still get to pay. How “democratic” of OKC. 5% screwing everyone–that’s democracy in action.


      2. Patrick that’s still not correct. Your statement “only 7% or so of Oklahoma City residents voted in the election” is just not correct. That’s the percent of people who voted yes for question, which is obviously different than total voter turnout. Almost 11% of registered voters in Oklahoma City voted for a single issue ballot.

        Still sad, but more than “only 7%.”


        1. You’re still wrong. Going by NonDoc’s 328,000 registered and eligible to vote number, it was 14% (rounded up) of OKC’s registered and eligible voters that voted (44439/328000).

          Patrick’s analysis is wrong too – there were 44439 total, not Yes, votes. And Patrick’s numbers are meaningless – why count residents that are not eligible or registered to vote as part of anything voting-related?


          1. I think my analysis is pretty accurate

            • There are a approximately 640,000 Oklahoma City residents.
            • 44,439 of these residents voted in the Maps election
            • 44,439 votes / 640,000 residents = 6.9%
            • 6.9% rounds up to 7%


            1. Well, yeah, the meat of it’s correct, the part that’s not in your original reply was that you said the total votes were “Yes” votes, and if someone were just skimming, they’d miss that point. But it appears your original reply was edited to remove the “Yes” parts, can we peons get that function too? 🙂


      3. The number of residents isn’t relevant. Children don’t count here. You need to calculate it from the the voting population, whether all the adults or just the ones eligible to vote or just the ones registered to vote.


  9. From the OK County Assessors website…

    **** NW 168TH CT
    Edmond, OK 73012

    Looks like she lives in Edmond. Maybe somebody should round up all the Love Your OKC signs and do the ol’ Jim Traber front yard surprise on Crazy Racist Carol. Look at that website for their sauce, these people appear to be complete narcissists.


    1. Postal addresses do not always correspond to city limits. Her address is in OKC city limits, even though it’s got an Edmond address.

      https://www.okc.gov/residents/do-i-live-in-oklahoma-city


    2. I can’t find Carol Hefner in the list if registered Oklahoma voters, but Robert Alexander Hefner IV (her husband) is registered at the Edmond postal address cited above. The municipality associated with that address in the voter rolls is “CITY OF OKLAHOMA CITY AT LARGE.” So apparently they were eligible to vote on MAPS4. Vote NO, of course.

      Robert IV is registered as a Republican. Who could have guessed that?


  10. This is why they run these as a special election. They pump a bunch of money into a flashy “Vote Yes” campaign and then run it as a special election knowing that the only people who will show up are the rubes dazzled by the lies of the flashy campaign and erroneous promises. How can they lose?


    1. So tell us exactly what they lied about and what they erroneously promised? There have been missteps along the way (no operating costs built into previous MAPS, overruns, etc.), but by and large, they’ve done what they said they were going to do over the past 25+ years with each MAPS.


    2. Never considered myself a rube before. Do you have a church with sweet beverages I can attend?


  11. Is it just me, or has TLO turned into an angry old man shouting at clouds?


    1. No, it’s not just you. You’re pretty much describing me. I say stuff on here I would almost never say face to face with someone. Comment boards are my clouds.
      And it don’t mean shit. I think I hear my mom calling,….


  12. MartzMimic it’s just you. But if you’ll be patient and you’re male your time WILL come. Have fun with your age comments now , it will give you plenty of material to reflect on when it’s your turn. If you’re lucky enough to survive that long. They may be “harvesting ” seniors by then since the herd is obviously getting too large and they require too many resources that could be going to the young and fit. They’re just in the way and have in no way contributed to anything positive or good. Why won’t they just die and leave their estates to the young so they can enjoy it?


    1. Gary, easy now. Don’t stroke out. I wasn’t throwing out an “OK Boomer” or anything of the sort. I was referring to the fact that TLO seems to be angry at everything. In the past, they tended to focus their sarcasm on Derplahomans bent on taking us back to the Stone Age.


  13. Does residents include children?

    Many of them cannot vote.


  14. MAPS 5 IS IN THE WORKS!


    1. Wouldn’t surprise me. Until a MAPS vote fails, there will always be a MAPS. It’s a convenient way for capital improvement projects to get done.

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