Insurance Spy Cams Coming To An Oklahoma Intersection Near You

If you were to construct a Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs for Oklahomans, the bottom of the pyramid would be cars. Ascending from there comes oil, severe weather panicking and “personal responsibility.” At the very top is gravy.

I bring this up because Oklahoma is about to pit to of those needs – driving around in unnecessarily massive automobiles, and the desire for freedom and personal responsibility – against each other.

From The Tulsa World:

OKLAHOMA CITY — Oklahoma is months away from deploying automated license plate readers across the state in an effort to crack down on uninsured drivers…

When a vehicle with Oklahoma plates passes one of the cameras, it’s checked against the state database of registered vehicles. Because proof of insurance must be shown when registering or renewing a tag, UVED will be able to identify which cars are being driven without it.

Eventually, the registered owner of the vehicle will get a letter in the mail offering to enroll them in a diversion program that keeps them out of the court system. It costs $174 to enroll in the program, which defers any legal action for two years. A citation for driving without insurance can cost $250 plus court costs.

I’m not an Alex Jones deep state kinda guy, but it kind of creeps me out having spy cameras hidden at every intersection. We’ve already lost a lot of privacy through smartphones and being on the Internet constantly, now the state is going to monitor us like we’re Geico cavemen. Then again, maybe these hidden cameras will help us catch the next hit and run motorist that kills someone on a bicycle?

Either way, I’ve come to grips with all my information being sold to a thousand different marketing firms, but this adds another Black Mirror twist that I can’t see all the Q-Anon folks in our state would support. And for a state government who has been pushing this idea of “personal responsibility” during a pandemic that’s surging higher than ever, why are they so concerned with spending what must be an absurd amount of money to bust people for not being insured?

When it comes down to it all, these spy cameras will serve as a poor tax. Who are the people who can’t afford car insurance? The same people who can’t afford a ticket for $250 plus court costs. As far as I can tell, these cameras aren’t looking for people speeding through red lights or driving recklessly, they just wanna see if you can’t afford car insurance so they can mail you a bill.

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  1. Big Derper is watching you!

  2. Complete horseshit.

    It’s a way to watch the comings and goings of every motor vehicle on the road, tie that vehicle to the owner, and then sell data about his/her movements to anyone who’d be interested in that sort of thing. Not only governmental agencies and corporations, but any individual who ponies up the cash.

    Let’s say for $100, I can track the movements of any given vehicle for the past six months. See any problems with this? Stalkers tracking the movements of women they’re “interested in,” criminals figuring out when you’re not at home so they can more easily break into your house. Spouses spying on each other. Bosses wondering if you were REALLY sick that day you called in, or if you were taking a drive somewhere.

    There’s nothing good in any of this for John Q. Public, just for those who want to exploit him.

    Insurance companies are already spying on you via the data-recorders in newer cars,

  3. Why should the poor not be subject to the same laws as the rest of us?

    1. Buy insurance instead of “medical” marijuana. As someone who follows the law, and has been both the victim of hit and run as well as an uninsured driver, I don’t see a problem with this.

      1. That’s dumb. You’re implying that uninsured people are that way because they have medical licenses? You’re awfully long on derp and assumptions.

    2. Why should someone have cancer and you not?

      There are many reasons for being poor.

  4. If you can’t afford the insurance. Don’t get a fucking car. Simple.

  5. If you’re too poor to afford car insurance, then you damn sure can’t afford to fix my vehicle when you run a stop sign and broadside me. What about pay for my med bills when you rear end me? Can you cover the cost of the lawsuit when your negligence kills me? Meanwhile, my rates are higher because I get to pay for uninsured motorist coverage. When you get hit by one of these assholes, you’ll want cameras on every corner.
    Carrying adequate insurance is part of the price of operating a motor vehicle, just like putting gas in it. If you can’t afford it, get a bike.

  6. man I miss the 70’s.
    a guy could actually live a life without constant nagging and surveillance.

    hard to imagine – I know.

    1. Well, a white guy could anyway.

      1. and there it is….

        1. What? Uncomfortable truth?

      2. Rev up your engines, my race card drivers!

  7. Too bad we have a terrible local transit infrastructure. If it was better the uninsured folks could use it to get from point A to point B easily. Maybe the cash generated from the cameras could help to change this. What? The money generated will go to undisclosed places?


    1. Actually, too bad we have a such terrible infrastructure – period.

  8. Maybe, just maybe if we insisted that people working for a living be paid a wage they could live on we wouldn’t need this? The problem isn’t irresponsible motorists or dope heads or freeloaders it’s poverty. Maybe our government should focus on making our lives easier not harder.

    1. A liability coverage for a hoopty is under $100/mo if you don’t drive like bubba smollett. If you can’t afford that in America, some intervention-kind of introspection is mandatory.

  9. So let me get this straight, you don’t have car insurance and are driving without it. The cameras catch you, and the State of Oklahoma sends you an extortion letter where if you pay $194 you get two years of not having to pay the $250 plus fees for driving without insurance.

    Sounds like something Jethro Kevin Stitt came up with to bring in some extra cash for the cash starved state. But knowing the Gov, it is a public-private partnership where the people who put up the cameras get the $194 and the State gets the cameras so the company can get their $194 per catch. In Stitt’s mind this is a huge benefit. Imagine That!

    Oklahoma is a top-ten state in uninsured motorists, but never fear, those who buy auto insurance usually buy “uninsured motorist” coverage to cover for all those uninsured. The insurance company wins of course. My son was hit by an insured driver two years ago, and still waiting for “Flo” the TV spokesperson for that national insurance scam of a company.

    Like Oklahoma government many auto insurance companies are on the same level in protecting the public. Just because pay taxes doesn’t mean you get government services, and just because you pay insurance premiums doesn’t mean they will pay a claim to someone who you hit in an accident.

    Knowing the Oklahoma Standard, I’m sure there are all sorts of uses planned for these cameras. Since so many states have outlawed them, you knew they would arrive here at some point just like the motorized rental scooters.

    1. A family member of mine was hit head-on by an uninsured guy who fell asleep at the wheel or something. (It wasn’t what you may be thinking. The uninsured driver was a young Oklahoma Anglo, born and bred.)

      My family member spent a week in the hospital and a month or so in a wheelchair after the surgeons put her back together. Sadly, she wasn’t carrying “uninsured motorist” coverage on her own policy.

      If you don’t have “uninsured motorist,” call your agent right now and get it.

      1. To add on, uninsured motorist medical insurance coverage and uninsured motorist property are *separate* coverages. If you just add “uninsured motorist” it typically will only be for medical expenses. I found this out last week when I was rear ended by an uninsured motorist and was told by my insurance company that they wouldn’t pay for my car damages because I only had uninsured motorist medical, not uninsured motorist property. I didn’t realize they’re separate coverages. Fortunately, no one was injured in the wreck so medical coverage didn’t come into play.

        Car wrecks are super not fun even when no one is injured.

        1. It’s some grade-A bull when insurance companies nickel and dime you to come up with an excuse for not paying what should be covered on a basic policy.

        2. My UM policy is a med pay and the damage to my vehicle is handled under my collision coverage. If I were carrying liability only, I’d be in your boat. Good to know and needs to be considered when evaluating your coverage.

      2. Our uninsured motorist rates are based on the # of uninsured motorists in your state. Bring down the # of uninsured and the rates for the responsible drivers go down. My UM costs me about $100.00/yr for 2 vehicles and a motorcycle.

  10. Oklahoma has had an insurance “financial responsibility” law at least since I was studying the drivers’ manual at age 15 1/2. The law requires that you carry some minimal amount of liability insurance. I don’t know what those minimal policies cost, but it isn’t very much in the scheme of things.

    I’m as worried about snooping Big Government as the next person, but this program sounds like a good idea to me. People who drive should be licensed and carry the required liability insurance. It’s the law! And it’s about time that it was enforced.

    I do have a couple of concerns. First, we must ensure that the data gathered be used for insurance enforcement and for NO OTHER PURPOSE. Second, I don’t like that the amounts collected from violators are split with the system’s vendor That creates a corrupt financial motive for the vendor in addition to the simple law enforcement motive for the State.

    1. How about using it for two purposes: Flagging the uninsured and ticketing speeders. Speed limits, too, should be enforced (they rarely seem to be). And it would generate more money than the state would know what to do with.

  11. The cameras have been out there for two years. I have watched cars outfitted with the cameras driving around the OU campus. It is amazing to me that these cameras can read a bar code on your car license.

  12. I’d like to know how these are going to work on the expired paper dealer tags that the OKCPD routinely ignore.

  13. Surprised that the majority of the comments concern the insurance/financial aspect of the situation and not its people-tracking nature. Read or watch British mysteries and the cops can follow suspects — or, of course, anybody — all over town with CCTV cameras. I guess we’ve just come to accept that invasion of privacy.

    1. Train left the station a long time ago. In the near future police will be obsolete as a camera on the street corner will tase you instantly when you step out of line. Crazy talk? Paranoia? Dunno. Four years ago I would have thought 2020 mishigas would not be possible.

  14. If Mr. Camera can read your tag #, he can sure as Hell tell if you’re wearing a seatbelt. Ticket # 2. Cell phone? Ticket # 3. In our brave new world the Police will only be used to clean up the mess, so to speak.

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